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Old 08-03-2008, 02:53 AM
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Dragging a person back to God... this I have heard in the Universalism teaching. How can life drag life back to itself?
By destroying death?
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Old 08-03-2008, 05:37 PM
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By destroying death?
It could be said that our views on death mostly today are one that is negative, resistant, unpleasant.. and life is positive because we think death is final, we think its and end to life.

Yet death is part of life, very much as dark and white are part of color..

Life and death are perceived as a beginning and end, a horizontal view, yet we can see clearly from life on his planet that life is a whole and has no end a continuation, eternal, like a ring

Death is just a change in form

Death doesn't distinguish life, though it appears that way when we see a body dead we refer to it as

Lifeless

Yet in one sense..... the suit/body is less the life that was in it, that gave it movement

But that is not our being, our life, or who we are

We assume that Jesus purpose was a mission to Destroy the power of death, because death seperates us from who we really are.. this is a teaching that stems from disobediance which apparently gave existence to sin and sin ( anythign that God dislikes ) conseqences are death and sin/death has seperated us from God/life

Yet to grasp being formless, it can be assumed that we have taken on/been given form, its in this that What we know conceptionally..can be experienced and fully known, not as a part but as a whole

I can know love, I can know I am love at the core of my being, yet knowing in itself is only part, half of the picture...

Through taking action, what is formless becomes form and love is known experiencially as a whole.
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Dont you mean, you " think " i am drifting towards similar views to which you held 25 years ago
Not similar views, just serious doubt about the validity of the Bible and Christian teaching about Jesus being the Christ.
I always believed there was a God. I tried not to believe, but certain experiences would not allow me to disbelieve entirely. I was sure the Christian concept of God (if there was a God) was absolutely incorrect.

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Not similar views, just serious doubt about the validity of the Bible and Christian teaching about Jesus being the Christ.
I always believed there was a God. I tried not to believe, but certain experiences would not allow me to disbelieve entirely. I was sure the Christian concept of God (if there was a God) was absolutely incorrect.

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Which is ok Someday. I could say I have been where you are going..

The idea that your position years ago or mine was less than correct is only a judgemental assumption of what you and I now assume is correct for you and I.

That is why TRUTH is personal, yours might not match mine, mine might not match yours.... but both arrive at the same destination... as their is no thing, no place where God is not

Each person accepts what they are willing to accept, either way it matters not.. only difference is our experiences
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