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Originally Posted by friendly hardline atheist
Hi Debbie,
Thanks for writing up your thoughts. Unfortunately, it doesn't help me think any more reasonable of the concept of original sin. If I still believed in god I'd think everyone probably does a few things that are sinful. Is everyone then sinful? Well yes, the moment they commit that sin they were always bound to commit, and not before. So destined to commit sins in later life perhaps (especially if we're created to so much want to commit what is supposed to be sin, duh). But not born guilty of sin. So none of those excuses of the old-guard christians of this forum who said 'Sure, the drowning of just born babies in the flood was fully justified, because they were tainted by original sin'. That is a totally warped piece of illogic that imo disqualifies those christians from deserving to be listened to on the subject of morality.
greets,
Peter
ps: you became senior member after 100 posts, you just didn't notice for a while.  |
Hi Peter
yes there are a number of stories that have evolved over the years to provide reason and existence to the idea of Sin and Suffering, Each one is an illusion built upon by the one before it with NEED/Agenda being at the start. Its a view of God which is based upon by our view of our human relationships. In essence we have projected ourselves on to God or the Idea of God if you wish to not consider God being behind everything.
A book that I think you would really enjoy, and would probably only confirm what you have thought for a long time anyway is
Amazon.com: God's Problem: How the Bible Fails to Answer Our Most Important Question--Why We Suffer: Bart D. Ehrman: Books
Bart does a very good job of explaining from the start of the bible to the end how the idea ( not truth ) of suffering came about coming from God and Sin. He provides a look at the various reasons for it and the various ideas and idiotic reasons that Christianity teaches is the reason for suffering.
I would recommend this book to both believers and non believers though there are many Believers who would have a hard time digesting it, as until a person is willing to suspend their disbelief in the opposing view and lay aside for even a moment their own notions about God, Sin and Suffering they will continue to live and get the same