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Old 06-17-2008, 09:37 PM
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NC Angel you said this in reply to Peter but I would like to comment on it.

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Ok, let me see if I have this straight--if you believed in God, then you could agree that every person sins at some point in their life after they have grown up a bit?

A person can Believe in God and not believe in Sin, I have mentioned this before in a previous post. You believe they cant believe in God without embracing the teaching of Sin and this is because your framework of God is built around Sin and Seperation, all of which for hundreds of years Christianity has not been able to Substantiate even though they have tried to through continually spouting off scriptures or referencing the pain and hurt that people experience in this world

But you wouldn't believe or don't believe that babies are born with a sin nature that dooms them to hell? Do I have that right?

Second, the whole " Grown up bit " is just too funny and actually sad that man has portrayed God as being worse than the worst human action.

Actually I would probably take it as an insult, but alas God is not man and doesnt have all the hang ups of man which the bible Authors over the years have tried to paint God as having.

Then, if so, I too agree that we all sin consciously, by choice, at some point. I do however believe that we are born with that somewhat genetic-like sin nature, thanks to A&E.

A&E lol oh my word give me a break!

Now whether babies/children go to hell if they die young, I would still have to agree with you that they don't.

Oh now your changing the rules are you, determining when and who does or doesnt fall under your view of God and what God has said.... ah the made up stories are becoming even more clearer

What I can't do is point to specific scripture to prove or disprove my point dogmatically.

I could spend a lot of effort here giving proofs I think point in that direction, but I can't be totally dogmatic. (Surprised?)

You can point to illusions, yes that right


My weightiest argument would point to God's attributes of goodness and mercy.

Ah, the irony... I think it would help you to also read " Amazon.com: God's Problem: How the Bible Fails to Answer Our Most Important Question--Why We Suffer: Bart D. Ehrman: Books

Come back after that and we can rehash this more
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