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Old 07-31-2008, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by amithe1 View Post
Why I believe in God exists?

I am a scientific person and everything should be explained by facts and evidences.

The verse that peaked my interest is this one:

Peter 3:8 NIV

But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

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One might ask, how can a day be a thousand years and a thousand years be a day? This sound rather absurd. But, using scientific knowledge, this becomes possible.

Its called relativity.

Here is a mathematical explanation:

Say, if a spaceship traveling at 80% the speed of light for 1 hour, how much time has passed by relative to Earth?

t1=Gamma x t2

where gamma is

1/√ [1- (v/c)² ]

and the t1 and t2 are the times to each observer.

So, say that we're at v=0.8c

Gamma is going to be

1/√[1-.64] or 1/√[.36] which works out to

Gamma=5/3

If the spaceship sees one hour,

t earth=(5/3) x (1 hour)

The earth experiences 5/3 hours or 1.667 hours.

Simplifying everything, we have:

Δt' = γ Δt
. . = Δt / √( 1 - v² / c² )
. . = ( 1 hr ) / √( 1 - ( 0.8c )² / c² )
. . = 1 hr / √( 1 - 0.64 )
. . = 1 hr / 0.6
. . = 1.667 hr


Therefore, the spaceship is effectively traveling to the future as 1 hour on the spaceship traveling at 80% the speed of light equals 1.667 hours on Earth.

Adding the scriptures here, to the Lord 1.667 hour is like an hour (…a thousand years are like a day). Science has explained that time dilation is possible according to Einstein’s Relativity.

Reading the verse again (Peter 3:8), how fast is the Lord traveling so that a thousand years on Earth is like a day with Him?

Solution:

Δt = t_0 / √(1 - v² / c² )
1000 years = 1 day / √(1 - v² / 299,792,458² )
365250 days x √(1 - v² / 299,792,458² ) = 1 day
133407562500 x (1- v² / 89875517873681764) = 1
133407562500 - 133407562500v² / 89875517873681764 = 1
- 133407562500v² / 89875517873681764 = -133407562499
- 133407562500v² = -11990073767863191518066568236
v² = 89875517873008072.672541095531972
v = 299792457.99887640380956453724992

The answer is 299,792,457.99887640380956453724992 m/s. The speed of light is exactly 299,792,458 m/s. It strangely gives a result of near the speed of light at 99.999999999625% of unbelievable accuracy.

In order for time to move, the Lord should be traveling less than the speed of light because at exactly at the speed of light, time will be zero at infinity, at eternity. The verse strangely registers just a tiny hair away from the speed of light to enable for time to move, otherwise, it will stand still at the speed of light and there will be no time to measure in this case. The strange accuracy of the verse should be well noted. It could compute for any random number resulting less than the speed of light, like say, 129,324,987 m/s, but, strangely it chooses a resulting answer digit for digit accuracy of the speed of light except for the last digit in order to make a point. It is as if it is trying to get our attention of the accuracy of the Bible. The first quantitative estimate of the speed of light was only made in 1676 by Ole Christensen Rømer.

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There! This is not the only fact I have discovered in the Bible, there are even more! How can an ancient Bible knows about time dilation and the speed of light even before Einsteins theory of Relativity??? Very strange. One leads to conclude that Einstein copied his ideas from the Bible. Did Einstein plagiarise?

The Bible contains both, faith and fact. In faith, so that you believe without evidence, in fact, so that you believe.

The Bible does contain fact and faith, just like so does a Amazon romance novel

determining what is fact is always going to be objective as long as the information being presented has come through mans hands

So while there are areas within the bible that can be validated as fact, and so is their areas within the koran that can be validated as fact

Not all of what is declared from pulpits is Fact, its faith presented as a fact .. and when the rubber hits the road... rarely can the assumed facts be proven to be real facts

Alot of our acceptance of things is formed out of what has been taught to us, the questions that have been posed to us and fears we let control us.

Concerning matter about GOD

Things will always be subjective until God him/her/no gender provides it directly, not through mans hands.
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