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Old 08-08-2008, 04:12 PM
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I personally do not like being labeled a Universalist.
I don't like the way Christianity has been sliced and diced into all these different denominations. I do not consider Universalism as a denomination at all. It makes it sound new and different, when the fact of the matter is, if anyone researches the doctrine of eternal torment they will find that the earliest Christians and the Jews from the same time period did not believe in anything remotely similar to what is being preached about Hell from pulpits today. No one calls them "Universalists".
Quakers do not believe in eternal torment. Must they give up being called Quakers? Jews never believed in eternal torment, not even today. Must they give up being called Jews in favor of Universalists?
People who reject the invented doctrine of eternal torment come from all denominations.
What always amazes me is how people that believe Jesus really is the Saviour of all (like He is reported to be in the Bible) are considered heretics and evil.
When the evidence is put forth that God will have His will be done ( you know, in the bible it says that God wills ALL men to be saved), those who put out the evidence that God shall actually have His will be done are relegated to the fringe and attacked.

At the same times, I have seen how many universalists treat other Christians. Sometimes they accuse them of hoping for endless punishment for disbelievers and sinners. Sometimes they are attacked and belittled in ways that are very hurtful. Instead of explaining our position better, sometimes we take the tactic of accusing fellow Christians of being sadistic or evil for supporting everlasting Hell for the majority of mankind. I don't think most Christians want to see anyone go to Hell. That is a terrible way to treat Christians who happen to believe all of the things about Hell and God's will. When I see people that reject eternal torment use these tactics, I am somewhat saddened. And I have read in some forums that this is the largest complaint against people who argue against eternal torment. They don't accept the message, but what really bothers them is how the message is being delivered. This has caused some forums to ban the topic, not just because of the message, but because of the messengers.

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