Tares and Wheat

[Grace]

Hi Taffy...

I wrote:
The field is the world (Christ is the owner)...Christ, the good seed, is planted in every heart....the adversary has planted his poisonous seed in the owner's field.

And you wrote:
The wheat and Tares are In every man..Christ is the WORD sown but can not be understood until these tares within us are burnt in Bundles.

Okay...so now I understand that I have wheat and tares in me.....
you say it can't be understood until the tares within are burnt....well I do understand, but I still feel as if I have tares needing destroyed!

[SeekerSA]

In the natural, Tares looks like wheat till harvest time. With ripening, the wheat bows it's heads whereas the tare remains upright. This verse also comes to mind.

Pro 14:12 There is a way which seems right to a man, but the end of it is the ways of death.

People often forget, most of Jesus parables addressed the laity of the day and not the ordinary man. Interpretations are so twisted to current biases in judgement of others. Likewise the separation of sheep and goats (both clean animals) is not about Christians and non Christians.

Blessings

[taffy]

Originally Posted by Grace

Hi Taffy...

I wrote:
The field is the world (Christ is the owner)...Christ, the good seed, is planted in every heart....the adversary has planted his poisonous seed in the owner's field.

And you wrote:
The wheat and Tares are In every man..Christ is the WORD sown but can not be understood until these tares within us are burnt in Bundles.

Okay...so now I understand that I have wheat and tares in me.....
you say it can't be understood until the tares within are burnt....well I do understand, but I still feel as if I have tares needing destroyed!

Maybe I can explain a little more this way.


Morning Grace...or maybe your tares are NOW burnt? AND now A MINISTER OF flame?
To understand means to SEE, as in the " eyes to SEE "..whats Blocked is the eyes which is Sin\lies and the words of Untruth \law of the ministry of DEATH as spoken by the pharisees which = the FLESH of all men..

His Faith in you is the CAUSE of you SEEING HIM

to know one parable one knows all parables


The world is HIS feild, ripe for Havest , the PEARL Of Great Price( CHRIST) HID within this FIELD=MANKIND.

Pro 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell [it] not; [also] wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

Mat 13:44 ¶ Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.

Mat 13:45 ¶ Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls:


Mat 13:46 Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.

Mans OWN riches are likened to Tares
Pro 14:12 There is a way which seems right to a man, but the end of it is the ways of death.

Again for mine this too is a parable,..the RICH man is young Pharisee , told to see HIS riches and give to the POOR..the poor will ALWAYS have the POOR but Not always HIM....the TRUE TREASURE is CHRIST IN US.

Mat 6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Mat 12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things


Mat 19:16 ¶ And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?



Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.


Mat 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,


Mat 19:19 Honour thy father and [thy] mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.


Mat 19:20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?


Mat 19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go [and] sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come [and] follow me.

Mat 19:22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.


Mat 19:23 ¶ Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.


Mat 19:24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.


Mat 19:25 When his disciples heard [it], they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?


Mat 19:26 But Jesus beheld [them], and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.


Mat 19:27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore?


Mat 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.


Mat 19:29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.


Mat 19:30 But many [that are] first shall be last; and the last [shall be] first.

The Apostles had to have these parables explained to them as THEY didnt understand them...TIS TRUE.

Blessings
Taffy

[Grace]

Originally Posted by taffy

Maybe I can explain a little more this way.


Morning Grace...or maybe your tares are NOW burnt? AND now A MINISTER OF flame?
To understand means to SEE, as in the " eyes to SEE "..whats Blocked is the eyes which is Sin\lies and the words of Untruth \law of the ministry of DEATH as spoken by the pharisees which = the FLESH of all men..

His Faith in you is the CAUSE of you SEEING HIM

SO...that moment almost 20 years ago, when HE came and did something that is like trying to explain an invisable wind, and immediately I knew HE IS---that fire with which HE baptizes---is that the burning of the tares?

[taffy]

Originally Posted by Grace

SO...that moment almost 20 years ago, when HE came and did something that is like trying to explain an invisable wind, and immediately I knew HE IS---that fire with which HE baptizes---is that the burning of the tares?

The way I see it very much so...

John answered, saying unto [them] all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:

HIS goodness leads us to REPENTACE of sin ..symbolically we are washed Clean , the fire\HOLY SPIRIT is HIM, the new man in us..which burnt the the flesh = wood ,hay , stubble being saved BY THE FIRE.


he returns to HIS temple which you are as a theif in the Night to Rightfully sit on HIS throne( your heart) the wood hay and stubble IS the flesh = man, THE old man HAS PERISHED ...YOU ARE new man AND spirit IN him.


Jhn 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Jhn 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life.

Blessings
Taffy





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[Grace]

Originally Posted by SeekerSA

Interpretations are so twisted to current biases in judgement of others.

Exactly! As I think HE is helping me see more clearly....I am still needing to unlearn. KWIM? The confirmation I have been getting is helping me to know it is HIM and not me.

[Grace]

Originally Posted by taffy

HIS goodness leads us to REPENTACE of sin ....

he returns to HIS temple which you are as a theif in the Night to Rightfully sit on HIS throne( your heart)

This is what I knew when HE came that day....then lost focus of during the years in the institutionalized system. I think it was all God's will. It grieves me to judge those in the system, having been there.

Jhn 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life.

Yes....

Eph. 4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us,
5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly {places} in Jesus,

[taffy]

[quote][This is what I knew when HE came that day....then lost focus of during the years in the institutionalized system/QUOTE]

yes sis INDEED,..dragged away by menstealers

Eph. 4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us,
5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly {places} in Jesus

AMEN...each in their appointed time.
Rom 11:27 For this [is] my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.


Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, [they are] enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, [they are] beloved for the fathers' sakes.


Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God [are] without repentance.


Rom 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:


Rom 11:31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.


Rom 11:32 [b] For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all[/B].


Rom 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable [are] his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

[Someday]

The main message is that the tares must not be uprooted. Uprooting of the tares will in fact, cause the uprooting of the wheat. This is the Kingdom of God. Unperfected to be refined by His fire. Only the reapers can seperate the wheat from the tares.

Blessings

[taffy]

Originally Posted by Someday

The main message is that the tares must not be uprooted. Uprooting of the tares will in fact, cause the uprooting of the wheat. This is the Kingdom of God. Unperfected to be refined by His fire. Only the reapers can seperate the wheat from the tares.

Blessings

maybe Im missing your point and im not reading between the lines Someday?..please excuse me if I am

The main purpose of ALL parables is the Kingdom of God..yes?

For mine..the harvest was NOT yet ready...His appointed time was NOT yet come?..yes?

Blessings

Taffy