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Old 04-06-2008, 03:31 PM
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Default One God one religion!

God is Truth and Love; it is only our perceptions of the truth that change!
Also of God it seems, yet truth is eternal as is God!

As I believe that those who believe in the one God there should be only one religion, we should all have a better clarity of the truth, all religions should come together in a greater understanding, to lead the people out of the path towards perdition, which I believe that many are now headed for.

Jesus the Son of God came to show us the way, yet many see His teachings the way they want to accept them, not the way they were intended, surely the possibility of one body of religion that could better recognise the Truth and possibly would be a better way of leading many out of the mire and itself and to a closer recognition of God.

When Jesus came did he not say “I do not come to take away the Truth but to add to the truth that exist” surely the followers of Jesus who call themselves Christians after Him, should be strong followers of the truth, and not follow in blind taught faith, as it seems many do. God wants free thinkers, seekers of the truth!

“No one cometh to the Father but by me” Who amongst the religions are showing us the right way, many go to church as seekers and for knowledge of the Creator, and yet they walk away with stones they think is bread.

There is a level in Creation called “The Land of Twilight”, held here are many millions who while on earth built up their knowledge of what they perceived to be truth, yet this imaginary truth form bars before them that prevents their accent to the more luminous realms.
Until they are able to throw of their false opinions, learning’s and teachings that they took with them upon leaving the earth, many cannot rise for fear of taking on something new that does not fall in with what they already believe, their false opinions.

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Let me go a stage further and explain what perdition is, every thing returns to its origin, as Jesus the Son of God returned to His Father, mankind is of the spirit hence we must return to the origin from which we came shall we say closer to the proximately of God, earth being one of the most further distance levels from God.
Hopefully many will return as conscious spirits to the more luminous realms, but all will return as all must return to their origin, as with a plant it returns to the earth, also the human body originated from the dirt/ and thus returns!
The spirits that have not attained to consciousness also return but as unconscious spirits, this is perdition.
I hope this clarifies some points for some!

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Then along came Muhammad and he also preached a more updated word of God, so Islam shopuld be the one religion. No, wait, then there were the Sikh Gurus, so sikhism must be the one true religion. Wait, there's more. Bahá'u'lláh, who founded the Bahai faith was also visted by God, so Bahai must be the one religion, or moromism, as Josseph Smith was also visited by an angel and claimed to be a prophet. Then we have all those people in assylms that claim that they are either the second coming of christ or semi-divine agents of the cosmos. Why, even L.Ron Hubbard could be right. Hail to the almightly dollar, I mean audits.
This might seem a bit sarcastic, but where do you draw the line at the messenger of God, Jesus, Muhammad, Joseph Smith? Each belief system thinks it is the one true religion. How do you choose?
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There is a level in Creation called “The Land of Twilight”, held here are many millions who while on earth built up their knowledge of what they perceived to be truth, yet this imaginary truth form bars before them that prevents their accent to the more luminous realms.
Until they are able to throw of their false opinions, learning’s and teachings that they took with them upon leaving the earth, many cannot rise for fear of taking on something new that does not fall in with what they already believe, their false opinions.
And can we have some real, testable evidence to back up this claim? Or is this as imaginary as your sky daddy?
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Then along came Muhammad and he also preached a more updated word of God, so Islam shopuld be the one religion. No, wait, then there were the Sikh Gurus, so sikhism must be the one true religion. Wait, there's more. Bahá'u'lláh, who founded the Bahai faith was also visted by God, so Bahai must be the one religion, or moromism, as Josseph Smith was also visited by an angel and claimed to be a prophet. Then we have all those people in assylms that claim that they are either the second coming of christ or semi-divine agents of the cosmos. Why, even L.Ron Hubbard could be right. Hail to the almightly dollar, I mean audits.
This might seem a bit sarcastic, but where do you draw the line at the messenger of God, Jesus, Muhammad, Joseph Smith? Each belief system thinks it is the one true religion. How do you choose?

And can we have some real, testable evidence to back up this claim? Or is this as imaginary as your sky daddy?
To build a house on sand I am sure it would topple away after time and become dangerous and inhabitable.
As with houses we need the strong foundations to build faith on.

I believe that this also applies with the knowledge of our Creator and His adamantine laws in Creation, without the foundations there can be no substantial building of more knowledge, it is as building on sand.

I do not come here to prove anything to you as has been already said by others, I offer no proof, as with the saying I have said before also about the leading a horse to water, you cannot make it drink it but I do believe that if the horse continually refuses it will die!
If I could give you a picture of the lower levels in this creation, I believe that as with many already there, this could be a starting point for many to come to recognition, I beieve that some must sink before thay can rise.
I am here to enlighten where possible to try to prevent many from going to perdition.

My efforts with some sadden me, as they are in many instances are as with the house built on sand, or the grain cast on stony ground, you have your choice to take or leave and it seems to myself you choose to leave, because what you cannot see with your earthly aids you criticize, and try to bring others down to your level of not being able to understand.
I do not believe that the truth is taught in the churches, as I have said many times I believe that they give stones for bread I am self taught, but from God.

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You are also in need of a Shepherd/ guidance you just do not accept it!
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And can we have some real, testable evidence to back up this claim?
Asking for testable evidence is starting to sound like science. You should have know that was a bit too much to ask for. The person you were asking for it recently professed on the forum here the view that science (along with intellect) is the tool of darkness. I'm not kidding:

Anyone seen this yet?

See the bottom post on that page. The video linked in the opening post of that page is 'special' too.

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Old 04-13-2008, 12:36 PM
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Asking for testable evidence is starting to sound like science. You should have know that was a bit too much to ask for. The person you were asking for it recently professed on the forum here the view that science (along with intellect) is the tool of darkness. I'm not kidding:

Anyone seen this yet?

See the bottom post on that page. The video linked in the opening post of that page is 'special' too.

Peter
As I have said before if you do not accept our creator how can you recognise his works, you are just skimming the surface with out making any impression on yourself or others. Or another way to put it is, try taking of your dark glasses and see what is around you, instead of knocking what you do not understand!

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To build a house on sand I am sure it would topple away after time and become dangerous and inhabitable.
As with houses we need the strong foundations to build faith on.

I believe that this also applies with the knowledge of our Creator and His adamantine laws in Creation, without the foundations there can be no substantial building of more knowledge, it is as building on sand.

I do not come here to prove anything to you as has been already said by others, I offer no proof, as with the saying I have said before also about the leading a horse to water, you cannot make it drink it but I do believe that if the horse continually refuses it will die!
If I could give you a picture of the lower levels in this creation, I believe that as with many already there, this could be a starting point for many to come to recognition, I beieve that some must sink before thay can rise.
I am here to enlighten where possible to try to prevent many from going to perdition.

My efforts with some sadden me, as they are in many instances are as with the house built on sand, or the grain cast on stony ground, you have your choice to take or leave and it seems to myself you choose to leave, because what you cannot see with your earthly aids you criticize, and try to bring others down to your level of not being able to understand.
I do not believe that the truth is taught in the churches, as I have said many times I believe that they give stones for bread I am self taught, but from God.

Regards Peter
In other words your claims are baseless and must be treated as such. You offer no reason, evidence that anything you say is in anyway true or even partially true. You, instead, remain completely in the dark about life, the universe and everything. I actually feel sorry for you.

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The people who joined the SS and Nazi party followed a shepherd and killed millions for an ideal. The people who strap bombs on themselves and kill the innocent follow blindly, like sheep to a shepherd. Jonestown, Heavens Gate, Waco all a shepherd leading his sheep. Are you a sheep? How far will you go before you open your eyes? Or will you be one of these people, to kill, torture, maim for an ideal, for your God?
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I will respond simply to this "One God one religion!"

Sorry mate, but that's an oxymoron.

IF there is a God, then you clearly don;t have one religion. Because tere are so many contradicting views of god, you can;t say that you have a religion.

IF you have one relgion, once again, the different contradictory perceptions of God, for them ALL to be right under one religion wouldrequire multiple Gods t satisfy all claims.


The second everyone agrees on what god is, you can make the claim
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In other words your claims are baseless and must be treated as such. You offer no reason, evidence that anything you say is in anyway true or even partially true. You, instead, remain completely in the dark about life, the universe and everything. I actually feel sorry for you.


Read my sig.
The people who joined the SS and Nazi party followed a shepherd and killed millions for an ideal. The people who strap bombs on themselves and kill the innocent follow blindly, like sheep to a shepherd. Jonestown, Heavens Gate, Waco all a shepherd leading his sheep. Are you a sheep? How far will you go before you open your eyes? Or will you be one of these people, to kill, torture, maim for an ideal, for your God?
Have you watched the new cartoon about Horton the elephant, the kangaroo reminded me of you, when it said what you cant see, feel, or hear does not exist!

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Old 04-13-2008, 07:21 PM
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How far will you go before you open your eyes? Or will you be one of these people, to kill, torture, maim for an ideal, for your God?
Now you are talking about religions! I do not follow all the teachings of these interpretations from the cults; I thought you would have understood that of my ideals by now!

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