Bible as word of God

[Al Basit]

Can you prove to me that the bible is the word of God?

[Mycernius]

It has it under the copyright claim on the title page
"God wished to be identified as the true author of this book."
It is right next to
"All characters are fictious and bear no resemblence or anyone living or dead and is merely a conincidence"
and
"Edited by St.Augustine.
Dedicated to Simon and Tarquin. All my love XXX"

[Someday]

The Bible is not the word of God. There is a a Word of God, but the Bible is not it. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God......

Someday

[Mycernius]

Originally Posted by Someday

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God......

Someday

Alas we started out as a late night channel four show. I should have guessed it, after all the presenter was Terry CHRISTIAN.

(A link to explain to our colonial cousins The Word (TV series) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

[Sazzy]

Originally Posted by Mycernius

Alas we started out as a late night channel four show. I should have guessed it, after all the presenter was Terry CHRISTIAN.

(A link to explain to our colonial cousins The Word (TV series) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

lol. My husband remembers that show. Old git that he is

[Sazzy]

And, on a more serious note.......

The Bible was written by man, translated by man, and "tweaked" by man. Is it inspired by God? I believe it once was when it was first penned, although there is uncertainty in the completeness of it as the Church was appointed to determine which books of the Bible were "inspired" and which weren't. But, as I believe in God, I am inclined to say that the Bible is not the be all and end all of God.

Wow, I'd hate to base my eternal destiny on having to figure out for myself which parts are true and which parts are false. *whew*

[Someday]

Originally Posted by NCAngelFire

Wow, I'd hate to base my eternal destiny on having to figure out for myself which parts are true and which parts are false. *whew*

If in fact Jesus preached to the dead, wouldn't that be some evidence that God forgives ignorance and misinterpretation of His ultimate plan for mankind? At the very least, it shows God will always provide a way for us to learn the Truth. I am a hopeful soul, and I trust God beyond even the Bible that converted me to Christ to begin with. Always remember Angelfire, the earliest Christians were living in a mostly illiterate time. Not only did they not have a New Testament, the couldn't read the Old Testament either. Salvation is not based on our interpretations of a book. Otherwise, God would have made sure it could never ever get mistranslated or misinterpreted. Christ is our hope, our intercessor and mediator. Christ forgives even those who plung nails deep into his feet and hands because they do not know what they are doing. How much more will He forgive us, those who are earnestly seeking to follow Him the best way that we can?

Blessings

Someday

[God_Chaser_007]

Originally Posted by Al Basit

Can you prove to me that the bible is the word of God?

Aagh yes, it is the same question since the Garden of Eden … Hath God said?, Could this truly be the Word of God? Here is the doubt that first caused man to become separated from God.

To many the bible is nothing more than the logos word; the Bible is just another book with stories and possibly historical accounts, if you believe that.

1 John 2
:14 I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.

For me, the bible is where I can see how God works in principles. It also gives me an opportunity to see Him for who He is, it allows me to draw closer to Him.

Just my 2 pennies ...

GC

[JM]

Originally Posted by God_Chaser_007

Aagh yes, it is the same question since the Garden of Eden … Hath God said?, Could this truly be the Word of God? Here is the doubt that first caused man to become separated from God.

To many the bible is nothing more than the logos word; the Bible is just another book with stories and possibly historical accounts, if you believe that.



For me, the bible is where I can see how God works in principles. It also gives me an opportunity to see Him for who He is, it allows me to draw closer to Him.

Just my 2 pennies ...

GC

First off.. the whole " Has God said " is NOT trademarked by your so called devil friend

And when MAN gets involved through the use of Words, or Text... We must question or if you want to spiritualize it.. " DISCERN " what may be God and what may Not be Gods desire and intention

Lets take WACO texas for instance.. DAVID KORESH led a lot of people to their death and much of it could have been avoided if people had just asked

" Is God really saying this? "
" Did God really say this? "
" Is that the real meaning from God? "

Lets take the whole thing in TEXAS with the FLDS and the young girls under 13 having sex with guys in their 40s under the premise of THIS IS WHAT GOD WANTS!...

Lets take a Regular CHURCH gathering... Unless someone is very trusting, gullible or a complete and utter NOB.. You would be a fool to not CHECK both in your SPIRIT and in the Scriptures what a guy is telling you up the front..

IF you don't DISCERN what someone is saying.. You could find yourself like many other self proclaiming Christians out there.. Under Guilt, Shame, Fear and doing things which clearly go against the Nature of God.

THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO ONLY WANT you to DISCERN what is NOT potentially a THREAT to the Hierarchy and Dogma that according to the church has already been defined concerning GOD

You said " To many the bible is nothing more than the logos word; the Bible is just another book with stories and possibly historical accounts, if you believe that. "

The Bible is whatever you believe it to be.. nothing more and nothing less than any other literary work produced concerning mans interaction with God.

The whole Separation Theology I no longer buy into that, it conflicts with the very ALL in ALL, The Everything idea concerning God and various accounts of God with Man in the bible prior to Jesus. It could be said that Jesus did not come to bridge the gap between man and God, but among many other things... Jesus came to bring back the Awareness that has been lost of God always being there. There is no separation only the separation that Man has created in their mind.

Personally I feel the reason why people do not question the existing teachings that have been passed down in various forms is because they are fearful of being wrong and in begin wrong.. they feel they will be punished by God... as an idea has been perpetuated that God NEEDS, REQUIRES and even COMMANDS that we get it right in this life or else.

This train of thought attempts to reduce God to being comparable or even less than even a Earthly Parent. It trys to reduce God to being someone who has all the same Hangups as humans.

You said " For me, the bible is where I can see how God works in principles. It also gives me an opportunity to see Him for who He is, it allows me to draw closer to Him "

Well I guess before the Bible came into existence man was just walking around in a blind stupor then.. I guess David, Moses, and Abraham were just lucky ... honestly GOD is not confined or defined by the BIBLE...

All that God is, can be seen clearly enough WITHOUT the bible

As for it allowing you to draw closer to him, thats cool an all and I have no beef with that... yet I will say that You cant get closer to that which is already in you, on you , with you and around you.

The whole.. im close today.. not close today.. im pleasing today, im not pleasing today is because of the theology of separation and reward /punishment being taught today in church gatherings.