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Old 07-21-2008, 03:35 PM
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"Man can try to name love, showering upon it all the names at his command, and still he will involve himself in endless self deceptions. If he possesses a grain of wisdom he will lay down his arms and name the unknown by the more unknown - ignotum per ignotius - that is by the name of God." --Carl Jung
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"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups"---Can't Remember Who Said It.

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"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups"---Can't Remember Who Said It.
How true! Somewhat related is one by Einstein:

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Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.
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Old 07-25-2008, 04:22 AM
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Man, I'm loving the contributions to this thread! It's so cool to see what quotes are coming up, and they're awesome!

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."

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What is the opposite of virtue? Vice. Look around you and ask yourself which is becoming more prevalent in society?

"While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but once they lose their virtue, they will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader.... If virtue and knowledge are diffused among the people, they will never be enslaved. This will be their great security"-- John Adams

“The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.”-- Thomas Jefferson

“No free government, or the blessings of liberty, can be preserved to any people, but by a firm adherence to justice, moderation, temperance, frugality and virtue.” --George Mason

“But what is liberty without wisdom, and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness, without tuition or restraint.” --Edmund Burke

“Liberty is meaningless where the right to utter one’s thoughts and opinions has ceased to exist. That, of all rights, is the dread of tyrants. It is the right which they first of all strike down.” --Frederick Douglass (Political correctness and "hate crime" laws come to mind here.)

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An individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of prison in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for the law.
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*Whistles* Awesome.

"The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal--well-meaning but without understanding."

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"For as Adam was told that in the day he ate of the tree he would die, we know that he did not complete a thousand years. We have perceived, moreover, that the expression, 'The day of the Lord is as a thousand years,' is connected with this subject." (Justin Martyr;Dialogue with Trypho, chapter 81)

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"For as Adam was told that in the day he ate of the tree he would die, we know that he did not complete a thousand years. We have perceived, moreover, that the expression, 'The day of the Lord is as a thousand years,' is connected with this subject." (Justin Martyr;Dialogue with Trypho, chapter 81)

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First the referral as above “On the incorrect six day Creation belief” I also call this incorrect as the Creation as refereed to in the Bible, and on the seventh day God rested, to my mind is the truth if you look on it from a spiritual point the way the Bible was written and intended for us to absorb the contents, and man on earth was only mentioned in the Bible where he need be, but many seem to think that most of the references in the Bible are directly related to the earth and its inhabitants, they are not!

As I have mentioned before that everything is formed out of the radiations of God, the reference to the forming in six days in the Bible is correct in the forming closest to God, I believe The Primordial Levels of Creation, the earth as we know it was formed much later, and took many millions of years, as science is allowed to reveal to us.
Much later after the forming of the earth, we were incarnated here for our development and to attain consciousness.

During our incarnations we were often given guidance to follow the path we should follow here, I believe some of this guidance was given us in parables, as I believe was the story of Adam and Eve, the reference to the tree of knowledge I also believe refers to the over cultivation of the intellect, also referred to as the serpent,(intellect) “you can eat of any tree in the Garden but not of the tree of knowledge” The eating of the tree of knowledge is a parable referring to over feeding the front brain with knowledge and in the process it shut of the rear brain, or if not completely it did enough to stunt its activity, to cage the spirit within us, it so we cannot receive guidance from the “Light” which is Gods Will that we do, so we do not become lost, as with the corn that did not bear fruit on stony ground.

Because we had shut ourselves of from God, Jesus the Son of God came to save us from the downward course to perdition, had He not came when He did we would have gone too for into the darkness to have any hope of being saved, Jesus the Son of God anchored the Light here on earth, God is Light!

"For as Adam was told that in the day he ate of the tree he would die, we know that he did not complete a thousand years. We have perceived, moreover, that the expression, 'The day of the Lord is as a thousand years,' is connected with this subject." (Justin Martyr;Dialogue with Trypho, chapter 81)”

I believe that this refers to Adam not attaining to the consciousness through tying himself to the earth through the worship of material things of the earth by the over cultivation of the intellect, which is formed of the dirt and upon death of the earthly body returns to the earth.

The reference to the Thousand years is only speculation to myself, with direct reference to Adam, if you would like my views on this I would be glad to put my points forwards.

I do know that the "A thousand years as one day" refers to the experiencing of the spirit, when the spirit leaves the cumbersome earthly body, its capable of experiencing more faster with out the earthly body than with it, and in the higher realms of Creation for some the experiencing can be a thousand years as one day on the earthly level.

I also have my thoughts on “The Holy Mountain” referred to in the text you put the link in to, but to discuss this here is too Holy, and I have no wish to enlighten or draw ridicule from our atheist that come here, as with this text I have no wish to give them entertainment, to mock and ridicule.
I reserve the right to reply to whom I wish!

There are also many reference to the time after the Judgment, this is a link to one that I was given, In the Light of Truth - A Gripping Vision it is I believe from a catholic priest, although I do not agree with the catholic faith I do believe a lot of people are drawn to God through different religions in their seeking.
I believe that this vision was a vision given to him, of the earth after the judgment, cleansing of the filth off the earth as we know it.


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