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Old 10-16-2007, 09:28 AM
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As far as i have gathered from the bible, we are all God's children. And yet, Jesus is directly referred to as God's son. God gave him special powers and awesome stuff. Why don't we all have magic powers? What made God decide that only one person could do infinite good? Surely it would be sensible to make a couple more people like that. So why did he make Jesus special, and favour him? What gave Jesus the right to be at the right hand side of God, can someone take hs position if they do more good than Jesus? I just think there is a little more going on here. If God has infinite love for everyone, why did he love Jesus more? According to the trinity, God and Jesus are the same thing though. Does that mean God thinks he's better than us? But he created us in his own image, so we should be equal. I'm so confused.

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Old 10-17-2007, 06:39 AM
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What, no takers on this one? I've already got an answer from a local minister, but i won't tell the answer. I would like VERY much for a couple of senior members to shed some light on this topic.
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What, no takers on this one? I've already got an answer from a local minister, but i won't tell the answer. I would like VERY much for a couple of senior members to shed some light on this topic.
So little time in the day CA...I'll give you a short answer...hate to do that as you pose an interesting question.

Favorite, no. Son of God, yes. So while we can be considered "children of God" as Christians, we are not "God". This is the distinction with Jesus as he is man but also God.

Curious to hear what your local minister said...
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Curious to hear what your local minister said...
oooo, you're just going to have to stay curious until i get a longer answer then...
I have another point to add. Everything is God's plan yes, and all predetermined. This is not the 'why bad things happen to good people' debate. Instead i ask you this, why do bad things happen to children, who haven't done anything good or bad yet. Does he love pretty kids just a little bit more? Because physical unattractiveness would be a sure sign that god doesn't like you that much in my opinion. It's like spite from birth. Does God play favourites among mortals? And please, no 'God works in mysterious ways', or 'we cannot pretend to understand his plan'.

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Old 10-17-2007, 03:11 PM
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As far as i have gathered from the bible, we are all God's children. And yet, Jesus is directly referred to as God's son. God gave him special powers and awesome stuff. Why don't we all have magic powers? What made God decide that only one person could do infinite good? Surely it would be sensible to make a couple more people like that. So why did he make Jesus special, and favour him? What gave Jesus the right to be at the right hand side of God, can someone take hs position if they do more good than Jesus? I just think there is a little more going on here. If God has infinite love for everyone, why did he love Jesus more? According to the trinity, God and Jesus are the same thing though. Does that mean God thinks he's better than us? But he created us in his own image, so we should be equal. I'm so confused.

actually, God loves YOU more than He loves Jesus - after all, He gave Jesus as a ransom for you.

Jesus work on earth was to show God to the ppl. no-one had/has ever seen God and lived, but in Jesus lived the fullness of God in bodily form. i.e. it only needed ONE to do so.

special powers - there are millions today that have the same power as Jesus had when He walked the earth for they have the same Holy Spirit inside of them.

replacing Jesus at the right hand if s.o. does more good? that won't happen, will it? no-one else did nor ever will voluntarily die for you. that makes Him no. 1 hands down.

are you interested or are you doing mind-games?

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I believe God is much more pragmatic than many Christians like to believe He is.
He "favors" some more than others because that favor (or lack of favor) exhibited in a human life becomes a fulcrum point for someone to join the Kingdom--either the favored or "cursed one, or an onlooker who is forced to think of things ethereal when faced with such opposite states of being; seemingly without reason.
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no-one else did nor ever will voluntarily die for you. that makes Him no. 1 hands down.

are you interested or are you doing mind-games?

Ok, your first point there. Nobody would ever voluntarily die for me? That's untrue, i know a man, a mortal man who would die for me. Obviously as a last resort, but he would.
Second point, mind games and interest. One really isn't that much fun without the other as far as i'm concerned. I'm playing divide and conquer really, whilst learning something i don't understand fully.

And to everybody else. Brother Brian, you may have already answered this, but there were alot of big words. I'm still awaiting an answer on why God makes ugly children.
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Ok a bit of time so I'll add part 2...
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oooo, you're just going to have to stay curious until i get a longer answer then...
I have another point to add. Everything is God's plan yes, and all predetermined. This is not the 'why bad things happen to good people' debate. Instead i ask you this, why do bad things happen to children, who haven't done anything good or bad yet.
Good question...is it was normal for a (good) parent to allow some not so fun things in the life of their child so they can grow up to be a stronger adult? God's love isn't a pampering 'Timmy have another cookie' love, it's a refining make you perfect love. So sometimes what we see as the 'bad' things in life (at the time) refine us and prepare us for the future. I mean sometimes you need to let your child screw up to realize how much they need the advice and guidance rather than keep them from all sorts of pain. (Which in the end may cause more pain...)
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Does he love pretty kids just a little bit more? Because physical unattractiveness would be a sure sign that god doesn't like you that much in my opinion. It's like spite from birth. Does God play favourites among mortals? And please, no 'God works in mysterious ways', or 'we cannot pretend to understand his plan'.
Physical beauty can be a blessing and a curse...the same beauty that attracts the dreamy guy attracts all the repulsive types too...true?
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:00 PM
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Ok a bit of time so I'll add part 2...
Physical beauty can be a blessing and a curse...the same beauty that attracts the dreamy guy attracts all the repulsive types too...true?
Yeah, but biologically speaking, the ability to attract ANY kind of partner is a blessing. But still, i'm not understanding quite yet. Shouldn't God make all mankind equal?
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Yeah, but biologically speaking, the ability to attract ANY kind of partner is a blessing. But still, i'm not understanding quite yet. Shouldn't God make all mankind equal?

He does. He makes them all in His image.
all equal, but not all the same.

my father was bent on treating my sister and me the same, and i did not experience it as an expression of personal care and attention but as one of cold, sober justice to the letter. i.e. she got a pair of blue and white shoes, i got a pair of blue and white shoes, she got a spotted scarf, i got a spotted scarf. he meant well, and his intention was a good one, he wanted to avoid the appearance of favouritism. but instead it bred jealousy, rivalry, attention-seeking.

i am glad God is not like that. He deals with me as an individual, knows me personally and so well that He can give me what i need, not what others get. and i love Him for that (amongst many other things).


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