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I did think as molly has read her bible obviously she would know...wouldnt you? Blessings Taffy 
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10-31-2007, 07:41 PM
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Ladies first, Taffy. Where is it?
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10-31-2007, 07:57 PM
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why didnt just come right out with it, after all my question was to MOLLY not you..wasnt it? Lady Brian????..mes a strapping 6ft 2in Welshman..he he..big for A Welshman..maybe not else where..wees a Tiny Race. I answered...Where HE Dwells ?.. Do you agree you next ..or leave it to Molly as the post was hers to begin..was it not? no worries Brian im in playful mood..lifes good agh? Blessings Taffy..
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10-31-2007, 09:41 PM
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what about ....HE DWELLS in the Heavens and in the Earth? HES everywhere isnt He Brian omnipresent etc..do you agree? Paul explains the Mystery of the ages to just where youll find HIM would you agree with that? Can you answer when the veil of the heart is torn?..what do we see and where are we? how about the NEW CoveNant, you must know that?... JUSTwhere did HE say HE would PUT Himself?...no Brian not what but WHO? The Royal LAW is a WHO? scripture tells us so....HES also the LAW of the SPIRIT..because for sure there aint no spirit of the LAW? IN fact HES 6 other LAWS which makes 7 AND if you know your numbers ..SEVEN MAKES WHAT WE KNOW AS THE ONE ROYAL LAW...which is HIM would you like the scriptures to all this?..its no trouble..THERES PLENTY TO VERIFY ,there in your book as well How about Christ dwells IN US and we IN HIM?.. what about WE ARE THE TEMPLE made with out HANDS?... i HOPE to Dismiss the myth that God JUST lives in what most believe to be the PHYSICAL HEAVENS AND SO WILL SCRIPTURE... you want answersing?....there right here before you..... this is but touching the surface im a simple bloke who understands simple talk , kids can grasp what I write...because i probably have reading age of about 10 if im lucky..i wont lose ya with big words for sure so my turn to ask Brian if thats OK because ,youve already evaded mine in the last couple of posts ...where in the scriptures to we find your definition of HEAVENS or Mollys as shes read the bible... No Brian Im NOT picking on any- one...but if we are going to use scripture to advise others we best KNOW what we talk about...dont you? PUTTING FEAR INTO PEOPLE THRO IGNORANCE IS TRULY CRUEL IF THEY MEAN IT OR not Excuse the caps along with the grammer..im a poor typer as well your BALL any ways, where ya from?..i see there are quite a few Brits here Have a good day matey Blessings Taffy Last edited by taffy : 10-31-2007 at 10:05 PM.
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10-31-2007, 10:56 PM
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Hi, Taffy.
I'm from the US; Anderson, Indiana. You're from Whales--right? Taffy, are you looking for a discussion regarding whether God can or cannot be everywhere at once, or recuse Himself from anywhere He wants? As a Universalist (I assume you are--correct me if I'm off the mark) you probably have some different ideas regarding Heaven itself than I do, not counting the rather obvious ones about whether or not everyone ends up "there". Specifically what do you want to talk about with me? As for me and the "Heavens location" question, I don't believe anyone fully knows or understands. All I truly know for sure is that wherever and whatever it is, it will be glorious beyond human comprehension, and that I get to go there at some time in the future and spend the rest of eternity there. Also, I understand that as a member of the body of Christ, Heaven is "in us and among us"--a foreshadowing of the true Heavenly experience to come. The Earthly Christ gave a foreshadowing of what it will be like to be in God's presence as He truly is in total--not just His "human side" as we might understand it. Now where it is (our final geographical or spatial locale of eternal residency) or exactly when after death we go there, I don't honestly know, and I don't honestly care--not one iota. Again, I have assurances from God Himself that I'm going, and that I'll love it there in a way I can't begin to appreciate just yet. Okay--back to you, Taffy. What's your angle on this subject? 
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10-31-2007, 11:28 PM
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,Many good bros and sister In HIM Bro. First and foremost No angle I cant talk to interlect or human reason but relate to the Spirit within.... as for reduce, where do find that Brian..no such such thing but human reason Hes either everywhere or hes NOT...agree? as for a Universalist, well that carrys with it yet again human perception to what one maybe? have you found a post of mine which talks of Universal Salvation...sorry, self loaded question...NO. I speak of ONLY ONE, One hope youll find all my post CHRIST CENTERED, after all the BOOK testifies to him in the new and the Old...do you agree? I keep asking such simple questions to find more about how you see things, im opening up here as I have nothing to fear by what you may say mm Im a little mystified about your question?...what is it you wish to talk about to me?...wasnt it you who questioned me on the topic of Heaven, wasnt my last post eluding my thoughts to you about it?...you can answer No one knows nor understands about Heaven...yet Molly states you will not get to this place where nobody knows with some authority...mmm something amiss there dont ya think? didnt you understand my last post about dismissing the Myth of heaven being a place OUT THERE? you say Heaven is IN US?...just where do you find that quoted in scrIpture..you best stop with this human reasoning .. It states HE is in US, thaTS WHERE HE dwells in the Temple made with no hands. No,,,Christ In us is Not foreshadowing....the law is the shadow of the reality which was to follow ..its in Col 2. 19- 22 if my memory hasnt left me....dont have no tool aids on this lappy..so bear with me a little.. you mention a location of heaven..what do wish the know our human understanding.?.. looking upward to the Skies and beyond...nope just another human reason.... or the true location of Heaven meant after the Spirit.... me thinks you asked YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION in your first post THINKING i dont know like you.... and so is Molly.... Christ words are SPIRIT and TRUTH....not carnal reasoning, hence 0000s of denominations throu out. ill tell ya what.. you provide me with scriptual evidence of your human reasoning so far ..and them ILL do mine...sound fair? because up to now you spoke nothing which scripture verifies...therefore False. sorry matey but thats true. so heres a starter for ten..if you cant get passed this Hurdlle..then we are GOING NOWHERE... JUST ANSWER this simple question.... is HE EVRYWHERE? if not why not and where isnt HE? NOW THAT CANT BE TOO DIFFICULT CAN IT.... ever heard of the Hidden man?...maybe we can move on later to discuss that which will bear witness to what i write...and therell be buckets load of scripture to support it,,,...... your approaching unknown territory my dear friend , hope it serves you well come the future so..back to my new friend in Indiana... again Brian Nice to meet ya. backin your half dude Blessings Taffy Last edited by taffy : 10-31-2007 at 11:37 PM.
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10-31-2007, 11:50 PM
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Your assertion that all my thoughts are strictly human imaginations and none are based upon scripture won't allow this discussion to go any further, Taffy.
I'll address one thing you said. You stated that God has to be "everywhere", and that's patently untrue. He's all powerful--therefore able to be wherever, and however He chooses to be. Therefore your attempt to reel me into the "How can there be a place of eternal separation from God when He's everywhere?" gambit just went down the crapper. Also, I'm not buying the whole "I'm not very smart or glib" routine, either--your apparent typing skills not withstanding, T. You have a good one, brother, and I wish you the very best God has to offer you. Sincerely, BrotherBrian PS Two things Taff--Please don't take this as my saying that I refuse to chat with you about stuff--I'll gladly do so--just not about this sort of thing. You seem like a good sort. Secondly, if I discern that I was wrong in the above post, I'll appologise up a storm! (That's Indiana talk meaning "a lot") Last edited by BrotherBrian : 10-31-2007 at 11:56 PM.
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11-01-2007, 12:10 AM
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Ill state this ...If you could YOU WOULD..,..those reading out there are not stupid.. Gee Brian Just Because HES all powerful has Nothing to do WITH HIM BEING EVERYWHERE AT ALL TIMES.. May I ask?.. what is the Power of God ?...scripture will be fine The one who has POWER to be all powerful..? you my friend are copping out.. who mentioned eternal ( if you mean for eternity)seperation I didnt... then by your last comment , If you wish ya can read hundreds of posts on other forums.. maybe I can provide addys to verify. May I offer you the oppotunity to discuss this further.. or do want to cop out like so many others... The offer stands....what you scared of bro...that you just might be wrong? dont you think for one minute that Maybe I have walked in your scriptural ignorance.....I dont mean that to be taken personally but to share with you that I too know and once believed what you and so many others do... sorry Brain again its back to you..lets discuss this with the scriptures from now in...nothing less..then we are on an even playing feild....arent we? If you op to walk away..lets not forget WHO asked the first question and invited themselves IN.... Its never good to end a discussion on a negative WHEN if its perceived that way.... Brian , there are many layers in scripture,what we first see may well be true, but when the depths are revealed they do take on ONE WHOLE new meaning.... thats the whole purpose of my chat to you... 1Cr 2:10 But God hath revealed [them] unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. if you dont mind me saying...Brian the only thing you fear is the possibilty of Change...after all who hates being WRONG, never say never..... and ill happily be willing to learn TROU you Blessings Bro Taffy Last edited by taffy : 11-01-2007 at 10:00 AM.
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