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Old 04-03-2008, 12:48 PM
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Since when? I'm sure there are a few billion souls that would argue that little word is your hell. You know, people of other religions, atheists, freethinkers, non-baptisted children, the Inca, Aztecs, innocents in Jerusalem when sacked by the crusaders, in fact anyone who says he is a vainglorious, ego maniac and doesn't follow your brand of the Jesus cult.
Very true. Personally, I appreciate the arguments that bring to light the obvious contradictions. Not only do those flawed doctrines of western theology malign God's character....they also hinder believers in many ways.
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Someday, you appear to be angry with people that have lack of any belief though. Tell me if i'm wrong, it's just what i've analysed from your writings
I have no problem with people who have a lack of belief. I don't even mind discussing this subject. I do get a kick out of some of the baseless arguments sometimes. I actually approve of a respectful discussion, but lack of respect leads to lack of respect. I work with several atheists, and when they found out I considered myself a Christian, they started conversations with me about it. They have been nothing but respectful and good willed toward me. They in turn have the same respect from me, and we are all very good friends now, better than we were before.
There are those on this forum whom it is clear do not wish an actual conversation, but simply want to throw out jabs and ridicule. I don't respect that approach at all.


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by all means go and ridicule them
So you approve of ridicule. I see.
How would they react if I went to Dawkins.net and ridiculed Dawkins for his latest theory that life on Earth was started by extra terrestrials? Would that be fair? I won't bother citing sources or any of that stuff, I will just say it and move on when questioned. Then a few days later I'll make fun of his 747 theory and then never acknowledge any conversation that follows? Then a few days later I will do something similar. Will anyone respect me there?
BTW, I have posted there, and it has always been respectful, and oddly enough, I was taken seriously, and treated respectfully. This is how it's supposed to work.
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So you approve of ridicule. I see.
How would they react if I went to Dawkins.net and ridiculed Dawkins for his latest theory that life on Earth was started by extra terrestrials? Would that be fair? I won't bother citing sources or any of that stuff,
L.Ron Hubbard went and started an entire religion with just that.

Doesn't take much for you to get on the defensive? Grace managed to look at the comment and posted positively on it. You just went into another rant. It was no way meant to be disrepectful, it was pointing out the flaws of the word Merciful, when scripture and followers clearly hold ideas that your god is not with non-believers. But go ahead, rant, it clearly make you feel better.

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Very true. Personally, I appreciate the arguments that bring to light the obvious contradictions. Not only do those flawed doctrines of western theology malign God's character....they also hinder believers in many ways.
Thank you Grace. You'll find that it doesn't just exist within western religions. Certain aspects and ideas that hold in some Eastern religions can be just contradictatory, especially when concerning women within society.
I have a feeling that the most damaging thing to your god and others are the strictures set about by organised religion. I rarely have this level of defensive speech from deists, mainly because their beliefs are formed by their own thoughts, opinions, life experience and how they find a god, not a set of rules laid out in a book and so called experts (priests, pastors, imans, shamans, you get the general gist)
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Well hold on there big boy... some might say he is not, if he plans on throwing them in a lake of fire
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There ya go again. Why are you so angry about something ya don't even believe in? Are you this inflamed over Zeus or Ba'al? I don't believe in eternal Hell, and I'm not angry about Hell whatsoever. I'm not angry with Mohammed or Brahma or Buddha or Lucifer either. Should I be? Perhaps I should go out and ridicule what they believe to show how great a freethinker I am?



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I wouldnt say hes angry.. though he might be.. and hey.. who created that emotion? so its a valid emotion.

I think he is just pointing out that depending on what side of the GUN you are on.. determines whether or not you think a person is merciful.

Now based on mans image of God ( aka the bible ).. no wonder we have distorted and varied views
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Being as Dave is using large letters..to make his point clear Ill add mine

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Being as Dave is using large letters..to make his point clear Ill add mine

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by all means go and ridicule them
So you approve of ridicule. I see.

How would they react if I went to Dawkins.net and ridiculed Dawkins for his latest theory that life on Earth was started by extra terrestrials? Would that be fair? I won't bother citing sources or any of that stuff, I will just say it and move on when questioned. Then a few days later I'll make fun of his 747 theory and then never acknowledge any conversation that follows?
How about you quote my sentence in full? There's a big difference...
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If you've got something to back it up, by all means go and ridicule them.
Am I to assume that you're saying I do that sort of hit-and-run here? If not, what's your point? It would certainly have no relevance to what I said...
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